Comments on: HTML 5 vs Flash vs SilverLight

By: Speak4theTREES

Speak4theTREES — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:52:42 +0000

Flash and Silverlight need their own programming platform, HTML5 just any text editor. Also Flash and Silverlight need a plugin to work! The coding is quiet complex, and they lack the conversion to mobile technology, so no, they forgot about the future ups. We don’t need more fancy stuff, we need practicality!

By: guya

guya — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:05:08 +0000

Good point mdamien, but I do think that tooling are very important part of the success of any framework/runtime.

It has to be approachable by the masses in order to get massive adoption.

By: mdamien

mdamien — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:42:53 +0000

I have to disagree with your assertion that applets failed because java applications are too difficult to write. Nonsense! It’s all about browser support; applets are failing because they haven’t had universal support in browsers. The java feud between Sun and Microsoft was the start of it.

By: sameer

sameer — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:01:23 +0000

i think silverlight is peice of crap. I donot thing we need another propr… app to solve our hunger for more… i am happy with flash but its too heavy and not reliable,html5 if can fill in the gaps who needs flash anyway

By: Greg

Greg — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:45:01 +0000

HTML/JavaScript = House of cards.

HTML5 is just a way to breathe some life back into a platform that is weak and substandard to the demands of today’s application deployments on the web. We keep hacking this junk technology. Time to be real visionaries here and move to real technologies for the web like Silverlight/Flash.

Silverlight/Flash are where the the future is going. Real runtimes that provide true RIA, blended with all the multimedia support that consumers will continue to demand. All backed with rich programming models and supportable patterns.

By: Chas Man

Chas Man — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:03:06 +0000

I guess I will do a little wishful thinking..

What would be great is if we could have the programming style of Silverlight and Adobe with the reach of HTML/Javascript. Just think if we move towards a world where all browsers have to support is a plug-in technology or two or three.. Then all those holy war issues of standards compliance go out the door and we can dispence with the highly beaureucratic origanization like the W3C that seems to delay innovation. I have to ask why has it taken the W3C so long to ratify CSS 3 and why the browser community takes so long to implement the standards. That one still makes me scratch my head.

We could move so much further and faster if the W3C and browsers would just get out of the way and simply support plug-in technology.. I know.. I know.. but just remember I am wishful thinking here…

Also, from a developers perspective designing, coding, maintaining and delivering a plug-in (e.g. Flash, Silverlight) based app can be far more appealing as we can better take advantage of design patterns and good coding languages. I am sorry but I would rather write C# over javascript any day of the week.

I guess the main reason this will not happen is because it would put all the browser companies out of business and probably cause Google to spend millions to rethink how to index and promote ads on a RIA based site.

Oh well.. Just dreamin.. lol

By: Jordan Knight

Jordan Knight — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:27:23 +0000

I agree with your points, but you don’t approach the subject of toolability and designer developer workflows.

These features will become more and more expected from future platforms – and it’s something that HTML5 does not address.

Flash Catalyst (is it sill coming) and Expression Tools. What does HTML5 hope to bring?

By: Rajdeep Rath

Rajdeep Rath — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:45:05 +0000

Read the truth about silverlight

http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/05/20/silverlight-powers-netflix-windows-media-center.aspx

By: guya

guya — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:17:12 +0000

@Eli, Google will be here long after the demise of HTML, Google will survive a nuclear war.

@Raju, your demo is indeed impressive as this whole Lazlo project. But, I don’t want to be bothered with multiple platforms/runtimes and their common denominator, I want 1 that does everything and does it good. And as mentioned in your comments, Flash is more than a runtime, it’s also the tools surrounding it, developers tend to forget this.

By: Raju Bitter

Raju Bitter — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:18:59 +0000

Interesting discussion, but with OpenLaszlo you can get both runtimes: Flash and DHTML! What that means? Have a look at this demo I built, showing the CSS text-shadow effect as well as the SWF drop shadow (SWF8 and SWF9). Cool stuff, isn’t it?
http://openfuture.rajubitter.com/2009/08/25/openlaszlo-dhtml-css-3-demo-to-flash-or-not-to-flash-is-no-question/